Maoist Cadres must have been lauding at vehement Pahari’s outcry.He seems to be the most articulate advocate of republic Nepal in recent times than maoists. No wonder why he has been detained for so long. Whose agenda is he talking about(Punsishing our Shree panch and security top brass for atrocities?) He seems more affiliated to Loktanra-badi(do we see another political party in formation?) than a human right or a peace activist.Any ways what is the larger implication of “Purna Loktrantrik Ganatantra” folks?

Why only Maobadis, there are overwhelming numbers within SPA that are pushing for a republic. And your observation regarding Pahadi as an eloquent speaker is on the money, but why cannot a human rights activist be opposing a despotic, dysfunctional and desperate force that openly represses dissent such as his?

Sarahana,

I tried to listen to Pahadi’s lecture, but it was a bit too muffled (it could be due to my speakers or due to the speech venue). I could understand only about 50 percent.

Here is my point: Do you think you could track down a printed version of the speech from some Nepali newspaper? I’ll try to locate it, too.

It would be great to post its printed version if available.

no, there isn’t one available as far as i know.

Let’s all keep trying to locate it (see #3). This call goes out to all the Samudaya patrons/visitors who may have some interest — no matter how tangential — in generating a stream of exchanges on Pahadi’s speech.

intense!

Nothing less than Rebublican democracy

Nanda Ji,
I personally do not think a copy of Pahadi’s speech will be made available in paper unless someone does it for you. I think there is nothing u’ve missed on the speech, he passionately speaks about Republic Nepal, KG’s violation of HR, calls on SPA not to let down people and get ahead with CA, and calls on Maoists to participate peacefully.
Its a loud and fluent ‘bhasan’ by a HR activist who was done by the last oppressing regime.

Oh Well!
now that was some speech!
hey, we have to keep in mind where he’s coming from as a nepali as he delivers the speech regarding his convictions against the king, king Birendra and his family was massacared…yes massacred, in this age! and in our country where he is considered to be the reincarnation of Bishnu…well all i say is that the peoples god has been killed and although we weren’t really in any kind of position to do anything really, so people are getting angry within the inside and that anger is slowly building and thats what we get…a revolution, change
I thought he was a brilliant speaker, very eloquent
nice but stern
way to go

Bir & JBK,

Many thanks for your info.

Very fluent advocate of Republican Nepal…uwa pusta ko pratinidhitwa bhaeko chha… Great delivery…
Sirish… btw I wonder how KB was considered people’s god? nevertheless I fully condemn the massacre…

Very fluent advocate of Republican Nepal…uwa pusta ko pratinidhitwa bhaeko chha… Great delivery…
Sirish… btw I wonder how KB was considered people’s god? nevertheless I fully condemn the massacre…

Yo, all the intelluctuals of Samudaya, Please answer my queries. I would really appreciate.

Does CA guarantee the total elimination of monarchy and establish Republic?

Is there a possibility of ceremonial monarchy even with the CA?

Unconditional CA does not gurantee anything, neither a republic or the monarchy. An unconditional CA would allow the people to chose representatives who would sit to draft the new constitution. If people vote overwhelmingly for monarchy than that is what the constitution will be. On the other end if people vote for candidates that endorse a republic then we will get a republic but the choice is up to the people of Nepal. Of course there will be candidates in the middle ground as well who will run on the platform for constitutional monarchy. However whatever the outcome unlike any other constitution of Nepal the constitution will come from the people.

kancha,

u mean the people would get to vote for a bunch of “intellectuals”, who would then go on to draft the constitution?

will there not be a referendum to abolish the monarchy? (where the people gets to decide)

n who decides this?

all this humdrum about referendum, ca,republic etc is just a grand rehearsal of the southern neighbour before the final act. Go through pavan shakya’s article ‘Let’s start a step’ in http://www.peoplesreview.com.np

What is the point of singling out krishna pahadi when there were so many other brilliant and no-less-radical speakers at khulamanch. This is not fair.

As I understand it and I am no expert at this yes we would vote for people, “intellectuals” i don’t know? Those voted in would go up to the council to draft the new constitution. The number of representatives are weighted according to the gender, ethnic and social factors. How this is going to be done is not clear. This is I am sure up to the new government and the parliament to set up. Ofcourse I am sure there will be a lot of fighting and infighting then as well so compromises will be made. Such is the system of representative democracy.

As for the referendum I don’t think anyone is demanding this. Think about it the country basically needs a whole new constitution it would not make sense to have a refrendum on each and every issue. If monarchy was the only isssue yes it would be possible but there are so much more to change. It would be awesome if someone could figure our how we can have direct democracy for 28 million people however this solution seems no where in sight so I guess representative democracy is the best we can do for now.

anonymous, more speeches are being posted shortly. it takes Subel one whole night to upload one speech, and we have limited resources in general, okay? but would you be interested in providing us speeches in the future? now@samudaya.org

Kalpi,

the only hindu nation, NEPAL, considers their King as the reincarnation of Bishnu…hence KB= Bishnu pretty much for the religious people right? Iam agnostic myself but from a point of view of someone religious?
I know i would be furious.

bottom line: we cant do whatever we want, we cant treat people however we want…and I dont agree why KG should be sought otherwise.
As people we need to make conscious decisions and develop critical thinking in our youths….

and Iam pretty sure there are a 1000 and one other/better reasons to hoot for a republic of Nepal…I think KG makes about NRs 61 crore equivalent to $1.4 mil as ‘vhatta’ what for ?
no health care, no education, no better life..
think about it

Well hold it right there!!!

another reason is that most hindus in nepal are followers of either Shaivism or Shaktism. so this concept of bishnu avatar is not a mainstream ideology among religious hindus

Birbhadra, interesting point you make.

The whole concept of the King being an avatar of Vishnu is completly symbolic. The in the olden days the King was responsible for protecting and and safe guarding the society - a role that is assigned to Vishnu in the Hindu trinity…
Nobody actually thinks the King is actually God. Even the uneduated villgers don’t respect the King because they actually think he is a God… So I completely agree with Birbhadra.

Birbhadra, King being avtar of Vishnu I have always wondered where that emerged from. If you have any knowledge of it can you be breif about it, and ofcourse what are Shaivism or Shaktism. Followers of Shiva? Thanks in advance for your response.

Secondly I really dont want this fked up fag to be the King of Nepal.

Kantipur Report

Crown prince’s vehicle clips wedding party bus
BY KEDAR OJHA

KATHMANDU, April 30 - A vehicle driven by crown prince Paras hit a wedding party vehicle near Chahabil in the capital around 6 pm, Saturday evening.

Me neither. this is high time that we stop suckling these good for nothing leeches.

about the question you asked. I cannot give you exact account of the history of nepal. but here is what i have known from different sources over the years. i could be wrong on the account of history but i am pretty confident about my understanding of sanatana dharma.

Shaivism- worship Shiva
Shaktism -worship Devi
these words are anglicanized. Ideologies in hinduism are most of the time inclusive so these different belief systems are intertwined ie cannot draw a line to absolutely differentiate them. The shah has been following Shaktism until they conquered KTM and started folowing Shaivism also b/c of preexisting practices in KTM. but don’t quote me on that you might wanna research on your own. the bisnu avatar concept came after one of this idiot kings saw BuddhaNilKantha in his dream. but again i might not be correct. history expert anyone?

oh us the subservient slaves of a defeatist civil society members..! something must be seriously wrong with us all if we think that Krishna Pahadi, of all the people in Nepal, deserves even an ounce of esteem doled out on him so graciously here in this forum. Because i got to see, and experience, from up close once, he is merely an opportunist who is more driven by international glory and hush-hush foreign money than any genuine concern for our homeland!

so called civil society leaders like this one should be deported to North Pole…